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giffords' husband mark kelly cofounded the organization with her. he gave powerful testimony as well today. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up just like gabby would never relinquish her gun and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. and this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals. and it does not extend to the mentally ill. >> one more thing i want you to see. following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintained? how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously an
giffords' husband mark kelly cofounded the organization with her. he gave powerful testimony as well today. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up just like gabby would never relinquish her gun and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. and this right does not...
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kelly to push for tighter gun restrictions. members of the senate judiciary committee are discussing an assault weapons ban and strengthening background checks. >> when i bought firearms in vermont, i go through the background check. i would expect everybody else to. >> reporter: nra executive vice president wayne lapierre is representing the powerful gun lobby at the hearing. >> let's be honest. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> reporter: while gun control is getting new attention here on capitol hill, getting laws passed is an uphill battle. republicans as well as many democrats are strong supporters of gun rights. >> the 1994 assault weapon ban did not stop columbine. the justice department found the ban ineffective. >> reporter: senator diane fine stain has already introduced a new assault weapons ban. senator chuck schumer is behind feinstein's bill, but he is not optimistic it will pass. >> but i think we're going to give it the old college try because you cannot hav
kelly to push for tighter gun restrictions. members of the senate judiciary committee are discussing an assault weapons ban and strengthening background checks. >> when i bought firearms in vermont, i go through the background check. i would expect everybody else to. >> reporter: nra executive vice president wayne lapierre is representing the powerful gun lobby at the hearing. >> let's be honest. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to...
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following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintained? how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously and her husband who i've met in the past i have to say is damn impressive. he was a hero for going up in the space shuttle and now he's a hero for taking on this hard issue and doing it with such great aplomb. it's important, keep him and gabby giffords and the kids in newtown, keep them in the spotlight. let them have the platform they want. the only way anything happens on the gun violence prevention front is if the intensity level remains on the side of people looking to change the status quo. you know, you know on the side of the nra and extremists on that side, there is already the intensity. it's always been there. they care about this. it's often th
following this morning's testimony, gabby giffords and mark kelly met with president obama in the oval office. so david corn, i show you all that and i ask how can the momentum to the extent that momentum exists right now on the president and the white house side, how can it be maintained? how do you maintain that level of emotional testimony? >> well, it was quite an emotional moment watching gabby giffords get up there courageously and her husband who i've met in the past i have to say...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to congratulate gabby's friend jeff lake on new role as arizona's junior senator. as you know, our family has been immeasurableably affected by gun violence. gabby's gift for speech is a distant gg? news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said this time must be different. something needs to be done. we're simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. on january 8th of 2011, a young man walked up to gabby at her constitue
our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to congratulate gabby's friend jeff lake on new role as arizona's junior senator. as you know, our family has been immeasurableably affected by gun violence. gabby's gift for speech is a distant memory. she struggles to walk and partially blind. a year ago she left the job she loved, serving the people of arizona. but in the past two years, we have watched gabby's determination and spirit and intel lekt conquer her disabilities. we're speaking to you today as americans. we're a lot like many fellow citizens following this debate about g
our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to...
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. >> giffords was joined by her husband mark kelly. he explained why the couple decided to start an organization devoted to gun regulation. >> gabby is one of roughly 100,000 victims of gun violence in america each and every year. one of our messages is simple. thebred and complexity of gun violence is great, but it's not an excuse for inaction. >> president obama would later meet with giffords and kelly at the white house. but the rest of washington has not been as welcoming. nra chief wayne lapierre who's expressed some sympathy for the victims also told the senate he has no interest in collaborating even on laws that restrict the gun access of convicted criminals or the mentally unstable. lapierre resit rated that the nra still opposes basic background check rules. that puts him at odds with the constituency he claims to represent. nine in ten gun owners support background checks. >> let's be honest. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them. >> many policy makers, however, object to that
. >> giffords was joined by her husband mark kelly. he explained why the couple decided to start an organization devoted to gun regulation. >> gabby is one of roughly 100,000 victims of gun violence in america each and every year. one of our messages is simple. thebred and complexity of gun violence is great, but it's not an excuse for inaction. >> president obama would later meet with giffords and kelly at the white house. but the rest of washington has not been as welcoming....
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but, first, retired astronaut, mark kelly, husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, shot two years ago. they have launch add new group "americans for responsible solutions." captain, let's start with your wife's drought testimony before a senate committee this week. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >>chris: how is your wife doing? >> great, chris. she enjoyed being there in front of the senate. it was a little bit of having her former job back in a sense, being on capitol hill. >>chris: now, the debate, your wife's shooting raises some of the questions in support of the gun control controversy. loughner was suspended from college because of concerns that he posed a danger to others but he was able to go to a store in tucson, pass a background check and buy the gun he used to shoot your wife. so the question is, what good does it make, do to make more people go through the background checks when loughner was able to pass a background check? >>guest: well, that is a good question. he was clearly mentally ill, the school new it. his parents
but, first, retired astronaut, mark kelly, husband of former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, shot two years ago. they have launch add new group "americans for responsible solutions." captain, let's start with your wife's drought testimony before a senate committee this week. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >>chris: how is your wife doing? >> great, chris. she enjoyed being there in front of the senate. it was a little bit of...
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mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for example, criminals won't go through background checks, so, therefore, we can't get rid of the background check loophole. then why do we have background checks at all? is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the
mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for...
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her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. >> giffords and kelly are pleading on behalf of common sense here. this is why gun safety opponents like the nra's wayne lapierre need to create multiple straw men instead of talking about the facts. the gun lobby will do anything to keep all guns free from restrictions. fewer restrictions means more sales, which means more money for gunmakers and manufacturers and guys like wayne lapierre. >> if you try to do this universal background check, which sounds whatever, it ends up being a universal federal nightmare imposed upon law-abiding people all over this country. criminals will ignore it. so what is the point of the whole thing? >> this is lapierre's newest argument. a universal background check won't do anything, h
her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. >> giffords and kelly are pleading on behalf of common sense here. this is why gun safety opponents like the nra's wayne lapierre need to create multiple straw men...
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her husband, astronaut mark kelly was at her side. he is my guest here in "the situation room." [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot even on a holiday weekend. ♪ things are definitely looking up. [ male announcer ] with no blackout dates, you can use your citi thankyou points to travel whenever you want. visit citi.com/thankyoucards to apply. stay top of mind with customers? from deals that bring them in with an offer... to social media promotions that turn fans into customers... to events that engage and create buzz... to e-mails that keep loyal customers coming back, our easy-to-use tools will keep you in front of your customers. see what's right for you at constantcontact.com/try. >> gloria borger, i think everybody agrees that chuck hagel had a poor performance. he shouldn't have had one,
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mark kelly is being asked questions by the panel. >> possibly been in the national instant background check system about him that would have prevented him from buying a gun through a background check. that's part of the solution. the other problem, let's say he was denied, denied the purchase of the gun which he purchased in november of 2010, it would have been very easy for him to go to a gun show and purchase a gun without a background check. so you know, there are several things that need to be done and in my opinion and in gabby's opinion, this is one of the most important things we must do to prevent criminals, terrorists and the mentally ill from having easy access to guns. closing the gun show loophole and requiring private sellers to require a background check before they transfer a gun is -- i mean, for us, i can't think of something that would make our country safer than doing just that. >> thank you. >> and mr. lapierre, in 1999 you testified by the house judiciary committee and you testified quote, nobody is more committed than we are to keeping guns out of criminals hands
mark kelly is being asked questions by the panel. >> possibly been in the national instant background check system about him that would have prevented him from buying a gun through a background check. that's part of the solution. the other problem, let's say he was denied, denied the purchase of the gun which he purchased in november of 2010, it would have been very easy for him to go to a gun show and purchase a gun without a background check. so you know, there are several things that...
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. >> mark kelly, husband of gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. >> you missed the point completely. and i think it is basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> let there be order. >> i think you're missing it. >> let there be more. >> if chairman patrick leahy pressed lapierre. >> if you're a dealer, that is already the law. >> please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could just answer the question. >> rights demand responsibility. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame. >> americans are looking to us for solutions and for action. >> this time must be different. >> the senate judiciary committee toda
. >> mark kelly, husband of gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go...
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. >> jimmy, the senate hearing witness list, folks from both sides, pro safety, mark kelly, james johnson, a chief of police in baltimore and chairman of the national law enforcement partnership. those on the other side, wayne lapierre, nicholas johnson and gayle trotter but as i understand it, you heard there's some concern that there's a slant to those witnesses that they're more gun advocates than those who want to see some safety legislation put in place. >> well, that's right. i think that you have a more than handful senate democrats and not liberals, per se, pretty upset about the fact that chairman leahy of vermont who's the chairman stacked the witness list against those or in favor if you will of those who are against gun control and so i know that today senator dianne feinste feinstein, second on the judiciary committee and has assurance to have another hearing without a witness list that will be stacked or stacked the other way, if you will. i mean, and so i think that you have members -- if you look at the dias, you have senators of big snams, new york, california, illinois,
. >> jimmy, the senate hearing witness list, folks from both sides, pro safety, mark kelly, james johnson, a chief of police in baltimore and chairman of the national law enforcement partnership. those on the other side, wayne lapierre, nicholas johnson and gayle trotter but as i understand it, you heard there's some concern that there's a slant to those witnesses that they're more gun advocates than those who want to see some safety legislation put in place. >> well, that's right....
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mark kelly is already raising lots of money. they had a fund-raiser last week with dianne feinstein in san francisco. they have already a million dollar contribution to what they're hoping to be a $20 million pac, that's a pac that would match the money the n.r.a. spent in 2012 to do very similar things tomorrow provide backup for people who take test votes on guns and to go after people who aren't willing to take the tough votes so it does rescramble this long range fight going forward. it doesn't change the immediate calculus because, like joe said, the real issue here from the white house's perspective is that they have a republican party that's not willing to do anything they really want and so they have to keep putting pressure on republicans in the house from the outside to force change at some point. >> rose: michael sherrer are, thank you very much, joe scarborough, thank you. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: we'll be right back. stay with us. >> >> rose: roger mcnamee is here, he is one of silicon valley's respected inve
mark kelly is already raising lots of money. they had a fund-raiser last week with dianne feinstein in san francisco. they have already a million dollar contribution to what they're hoping to be a $20 million pac, that's a pac that would match the money the n.r.a. spent in 2012 to do very similar things tomorrow provide backup for people who take test votes on guns and to go after people who aren't willing to take the tough votes so it does rescramble this long range fight going forward. it...
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. >> and yet, we know it's not just the media is it because today in the houston chronicle, mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords, who was shot in the head, he's written a piece in which he talks about the fact that he believes the nra needs a new generation of leaders because the old generation is clearly not listening to the people of america who do want to see some change in relation to background checks. he also points out that wayne lapierre makes a salary of around a million dollars. >> and martin, the difference really since newtown is that the gun control forces really do have their boots on the ground in a way that we haven't seen in quite some time. the gun control supporters are here. they've been reading the names of gun violence victims. there are several relatives of newtown that are here. i was speaking to one earlier whose son was killed. he said he was on the phone yesterday with mark pryor trying to get him to reconsider the vote he made. >> we'd like you o stick around for our conversation with laurie haas, the mother of a virginia tech survivor. next, did the bo
. >> and yet, we know it's not just the media is it because today in the houston chronicle, mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords, who was shot in the head, he's written a piece in which he talks about the fact that he believes the nra needs a new generation of leaders because the old generation is clearly not listening to the people of america who do want to see some change in relation to background checks. he also points out that wayne lapierre makes a salary of around a million...
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mark kelly will be one of the david gregory's guests this sunday on "meet the press". >>> why republicans put the nomination of chuck hagel on hold. i'll ask a senator wicker why. [ female announcer ] today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. just two pills for all day pain relief. try aleve d for strong, all day long sinus and headache relief. hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick meal, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. because every flake is double-toasted... splashed with sweet honey... and covered in rich double-roasted peanuts. mmm. [ hero ] yummy. [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nut
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giffords said her effort and mark kelly's effort to raise about $20 million. i think bloomberg could match that or go further. he said he wants to get members of congress on the record on these issues so that next cycle we can come advertise either for them or against them and issuing a threat right now to congress to say, look, big money is here. we have super pacs. we can spend this money in your race, in you district, you have to know that there is both backup for you if you take a difficult vote and a possible threat coming at you. the question is, what the impact will be long term. one of the myths of the national rifle association is main power is ability to spend money in elections on tv and they really have never been heavy hitters in most cases in television. they have a lot of grass roots campaigning, a huge membership in a lot of districts. their real impact is that the people that care about guns tend to vote on that issue whereas the people who are more for gun control don't usually decide their vote based on that issue so if you go on the record
giffords said her effort and mark kelly's effort to raise about $20 million. i think bloomberg could match that or go further. he said he wants to get members of congress on the record on these issues so that next cycle we can come advertise either for them or against them and issuing a threat right now to congress to say, look, big money is here. we have super pacs. we can spend this money in your race, in you district, you have to know that there is both backup for you if you take a difficult...
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i spoke to mark kelly yesterday about his testimony. he said that we're both -- he and congresswoman giffords, are moderate gun owners. they own guns. they have been supporters of gun rights for a long time. he also said that he hopes that they can do something about the safety of our kids and our communities. one tidbit he told me is that he and gabby giffords used to go together to the nra practice range just outside of washington. he almost joined the nra himself but never got around to it. that's their perspective. and then of course on the other side of the witness table the last person we will hear from will be wayne lapierre who will say a lot of familiar things that we've heard from him over the years but even more specifically since the shootings at newtown he's going to say in fact his prepared remarks say that he's going to say law abiding gun owners will not accept the blame for acts of violence of deranged criminals. expect him to be as combative and defiant for people who own guns as he has in the past. >> i'm sitting here
i spoke to mark kelly yesterday about his testimony. he said that we're both -- he and congresswoman giffords, are moderate gun owners. they own guns. they have been supporters of gun rights for a long time. he also said that he hopes that they can do something about the safety of our kids and our communities. one tidbit he told me is that he and gabby giffords used to go together to the nra practice range just outside of washington. he almost joined the nra himself but never got around to it....
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our first witness is mark kelly. he is a, first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronaut in u.s. navy captain. captain kelly recently cofounded americans for responsible solutions. this is an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence, and protect responsible gun ownership. did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. so, captain kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank you, chairman leahy and ranking member grassley for inviting me here today ? . >> we are simply two reasonable americans who have said, enough. on january 8th of 2011 a young man walked up to gabby at her constituent event in tucson, leveled his gun and shot her through the head. he then turned down the line and continued firing. in 15 seconds he emptied his magazine. it contained 33 bullets and there were 33 wounds. as the shooter attempted to reload he fumbled. a woman grabbed the next magazine, and others restrained him. gabby was the first victim. christina taylor green, nine years old, born on 9-11-2001 was shot with the 13th bullet or after
our first witness is mark kelly. he is a, first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronaut in u.s. navy captain. captain kelly recently cofounded americans for responsible solutions. this is an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence, and protect responsible gun ownership. did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. so, captain kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank you, chairman leahy and ranking member grassley for inviting me here today ?...
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kelly as well as wayne lapierre the head of the national rifle association and we will try to separate reality from rhetoric and get into what would work and what would work in their various arguments and there've been new developments we have that picture that's gone viral of the president skeet shooting at camp david. presque isle the american sniper who was killed yesterday in a texas gun range. the story continues to build >> it's a chris gives the rundown because there have been so many different pieces to this and calls for action proposals. what measures are making their way to the dock it's now? >> there hasn't been a formal -- yes, senator feinstein is passed legislation were offered legislation. it isn't really going to the process. they just had hearings. there are three major proposals and i'll give you a morning line as two where they stand. first is the idea of an assault weapons ban like we had for 10 years starting in 94. diane feinstein proposing that. that we'll have the hardest time passing. there are some indications the white house realizes that we'll have a diffic
kelly as well as wayne lapierre the head of the national rifle association and we will try to separate reality from rhetoric and get into what would work and what would work in their various arguments and there've been new developments we have that picture that's gone viral of the president skeet shooting at camp david. presque isle the american sniper who was killed yesterday in a texas gun range. the story continues to build >> it's a chris gives the rundown because there have been so...